A History of the Dragon Kingdom

LoneKnight · Jul 18, 2007 2:27 AM

I know with the new Spyro games, many people have believed that it throws the older Spyro's out the window. However, all of them still fit in the series together.

Here's the list of the games in chronological order.

~ The Legend of Spyro: A New Beginning
~ The Legend of Spyro: The Eternal Night
~ Spyro The Dragon
~ Spryo: Ripto's Rage / Gateway to Glimmer
~ Spyro: Year of the Dragon
~ Spryo: Enter the Dragonfly
~ Spyro: A Hero's Tail

History:

Note that PB refers to "Pre-Birth" of Spyro. AB refers to "After-Birth" of Spyro.

Unknown PB to 3000 PB - Various dragon tribes war with one another. Different tribes of dragons are identifiable by different colors and forms of fighting. All the cultures of the tribes are focused on their environments; fighting is also based on environmental surroundings.

3000 PB - The various dragon tribes unite into a single group, and a dragon king is chosen. King Drache is named king of the newly formed Dragon Kingdoms.

3000 PB to 1000 PB - The Kingdom stays in relative peace, despite minor conflicts with a Dragon-like race called the Drakes, and Rhinocs. Human tribes are discovered and accepted within the Dragon Kingdom.

1000 PB - A Drake sorceress casts a spell that banishes the Dragons from their homeland, which would become known as the Forgotten Worlds.

1000 PB to 100 PB - The banished Dragons began rebuilding their kingdom in a new homeworld. There is a collection of various races dwelling in the new lands.

100 PB to 12 PB - A demigod known as the Dark Master leads a horde into the lands of the New Dragon Kingdom, intent on enslaving it. The dragons and various races take sides and begin a fierce war. A dragon named Ignitus emerges as the face of the Resistance.

12 PB to 0 PB - The dragon prophet Drego makes a prophecy that in twelve years, a dragon will be born that will end the war with the Dark Master and save the Dragon Kingdom. The war turns badly for the New Dragon Kingdom, as more betray the Resistance and join the Dark Master.

0 - The Dark Master destroys hundreds of dragon eggs to prevent the savior dragon from being born. Ignitus retrieves the purple dragon's egg and sets it afloat a mushroom down a river leading away from the Dragon Kingdom. In lands bordering the Dragon Kingdom, a family of dragonflies find the egg when it hatches. Spyro the Dragon is born.

0 to 1 AB - The Resistance completely collapses as a fallen dragon named Cynder leads the Dark Master's forces in many victories that crush the Resistance armies. In a last ditch effort, the dragon prophet Drego casts the same spell cast by the Drake Sorceress a thousand years prior and banishes the Dark Master to a prison realm known as the Convexity. Drago dies from the energy drained from his body to commit the spell.

Cynder kills several of the Dark Master's other generals, and becomes the undisputed steward to the Dark Master. The Dragon Kingdom is completely taken over, and ruled with an iron fist. Those who defected to the Dark Master's side during the war are stripped of all rights, and those who fought against the Dark Master are oppressed even worse.

1 AB to 14 AB - The dragonflies raise the young dragon, named Spyro. Spyro believes he is a dragonfly. He is 'brothers' with a dragonfly born on the same day, named Sparx.

14 AB - Cynder plans to expand the empire of the Dark Master in anticipation for his return. Soldiers of the Dark Master's massive army are sent to conquer the lands immediately bordering the Dragon Kingdom.

A force reaches the dragonfly region. Spyro, forced to defend his family, discovered the ability to breathe fire. The aggressing forces were slaughtered, but messengers brought word to the Dragon Kingdom that a young, purple dragon was living outside of the Dragon Kingdom. This message was intercepted by the last surviving resistance forces, well hidden. Their leader, the still living Ignitus, traveled to the borders of the Dragon Kingdom, in search of the Dragon.

Spyro was found by Ignitus before Cynder's forces swarmed the area in search for him. Ignitus led Spyro to the old Dragon Temple, where he trained Spyro in various different combat techniques. Spyro then traveled to various strongholds of Cynder, freeing resistance members, and slaughtering Cynder's forces.

It was determined that Cynder was using power gems to drain the energy from living dragons in order to free the Dark Master. In relation to how the spell cast to banish the Dark Master drained Drago of his life energy, it was widely believed that gathering more life energy would free the Dark Master from his prison. Spyro stormed Cynder's castle, and followed Cynder to the Convexity in an attempt to stop her from unlocking the Dark Master. Cynder was beaten severely, and the Dark Master's influence was removed from her. Spyro and Cynder fled the Convexity.

The growing resistance movement began preparing themselves for the coming battles in ensuring that the Dark Master remained trapped, and to begin liberating the Dragon Kingdom.

15 AB - The Ape King, another of the Dark Master's generals attempts to free the Dark Master.

15 AB to 17 AB - The Dragon Kingdom is liberated from the remnants of the Dark Master's regime. The Gnorcs, a race that sided with the Dark Master's occupation, lost considerable power with the collapse of the Dark Master's empire. Provoked by the leaders of the Dragon Kingdom, the Gnorc leader, Gnasty, uses a spell from the Dark Master to begin imprisoning every dragon in the kingdom.

Spyro avoids the initial scourging of the attack. The Gnorc army begins siezing the lands of the Dragon Kingdom. Spyro single handedly slaughters most of the ill-trained Gnorc army and begins freeing many of the dragons. Gnasty is beaten severely by Spyro in a confrontation, and imprisoned. The remaining dragons are freed, and the Gnorcs agree to end fighting.

18 AB - The Dragon Kingdom is in a state of peace. In the nearby country of Avalar, the human King Bryan and a Queen Brenda have just died of old age. Days after, a portal is mistakenly opened to the Forgotten Worlds, and Rhinoc lord named Ripto emerges with two Drakes. With the lack of leadership, the denizens of Avalar put up a weak defense, and Ripto quickly takes over Avalar, and begins imposing his will on its peoples.

In a last ditch attempt, a portal is opened to the Dragon Kingdom in hopes a dragon will enter Avalar. Spyro, en route to Dragon Shores, is instead sent to Avalar. Ripto destroys the portal, preventing Spyro's escape. Luckily, Ripto's scepter is destroyed, and he retreats. Spyro then began helping the denizens of Avalar, helping them overthrow the foreign hostiles that Ripto brought in from the Forgotten Realms to enforce his rule. Spyro kills Ripto's two Drake bodyguards, and was believed to have killed Ripto himself. However, Ripto appeared to have survived. Nonetheless, his disappearance made many believe in his death, and the Avalar was freed of his rule.

19 AB - The Year of the Dragon, the year that the new generation of dragons would be born. However, a portal to the Forgotten Realms was opened, and all of the dragon eggs were stolen and taken back to the Forgotten Realms. The Sorceress, still alive, needed the wings from the dragons to create a spell enabling her to live forever.

Spyro and several others were sent to the Forgotten Realms, and began fighting the Sorceress' forces. However, the Sorceress' harsh rule had many of her denizens unhappy, and quickly there was a rebellion. Spyro killed the Sorceress, returned power to its people, and retrieved the dragon eggs.

20 AB - The celebration was being commenced where the newly born dragonflies were being bonded with their dragon partners for life. However, a horribly burned Ripto returned, and attempted a spell that would kill all of the dragonflies. However, the spell failed, and the dragonflies scattered throughout the Dragon Kingdom. Spyro was able to retrieve the dragonflies, destroy Ripto's mercenary forces, return order to the Kingdom, and slay Ripto once and for all.

21 AB - Since the Dragon Kingdom was no longer a true 'kingdom', it was ruled by a council of dragons rather than a single ruler. A dragon named Red was against the council's ruling of the Dragon Kingdom, favoring a more dictated rule. Red secretly had possession of items known as dark gems, which would corrupt anything they came in contact. It is believed that the gems corrupted Red rather than Red becoming angered with the council on his own accord. Red began placing these gems throughout the kingdom, and traveled to the lands outside of the kingdom, where Gnasty Gnorc had been banished with his surviving army, and offered the Gnorcs a chance to rule with him. Red also recruited several other minions in foreign lands.

Spyro began heading through the Dragon Kingdom, systematically destroying the dark gems. Along the way, Spyro slew the Gnorc army, eventually killing Gnasty Gnorc himself. However, the Gnorcs did not crumble with their leader's death. Instead, they began serving Red directly. Spyro then killed Red's other minions, and finally cornered Red in his lair. After a fierce battle, Red was captured and shrunk to a size where he posed no further danger.

Since that time, there have been no threats to the Dragon Kingdom. Nary a vile creature would show itself for many years. But a plot was being conjured that would soon pit the Dragon Kingdom into disaster....

EternalNight · Jul 18, 2007 3:05 AM

I really like you way on how you compare the new spyro games with the old ones. Very well done smile

Spyro_Loves_Me · Jul 18, 2007 9:03 AM

Wow. Heh, it all matches up to near perfection! Confused me a bit at first, but now it all makes sense. Great job on bringing that out! wink

simon · Jul 18, 2007 11:59 AM

Why do you think A New Begginning & The Eternal Night are in the main storyline? Remeber, the creators of A New Begginning is replacing the other games.

Main Storyline
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Spyro The Dragon - The First Game.

Spyro 2: Ripto's Rage / Gateway to Glimmer - The Second Game which continues from the first Game.

Spyro 3: Year Of Dragon - The Third Game which continues from the Second Game.

Spyro 4: Enter The Dragonfly - Continues from Year Of The Dragon since the baby dragons are to be given Dragonflys after Spyro retrieved the eggs from Year Of The Dragon.

Spyro 5: A Hero's Tail - Continues shorty after Enter The Dragonfly since Gnasty was back and Spyro said he defeated him years ago.

Spyro 6: Shadow Legacy - Continues from A Hero's Tail because Red made a return, where he has been freed from imprisonment by the Sorcerer, who then took control of him. Red is eventually defeated by Spyro in the Forgotten Realms and, freed from the Sorcerer's spell, helped Spyro defeat the Sorcerer by teaching him the "Banish" spell. From then on, Red remained at the dojo in case of another attack by the Sorcerer. Most of the worlds from the past games returned.

DragonspiritPT · Jul 18, 2007 2:16 PM

Go to Mozepy's site... there is the storyline... like LoneKnight's one.

LoneKnight · Jul 18, 2007 3:34 PM

That's my point Simon. People just treat the Spyro series like it got washed away by the new ones, but they all still fit perfectly.

simon · Jul 19, 2007 5:57 AM

I understand. The one I post above is the real storyline. Oh Mozepy's site, I've been to that site lots of times, I already said I been to site before on another topic and you didn't noticed DragonspiritPT? neutral Oh nevermind, new members who join this year or late last year won't want to see old topics do they?

ontels · Jul 19, 2007 3:18 PM

thats really well done lone knite it sorta sounds like real history

DanteAndVergil · Jul 20, 2007 2:14 PM

The relations in the games all connect but because most of them are with different companies no one sees that anymore

Stormy · Jul 20, 2007 5:39 PM

They're not supposed to connect. They're separate games. You can connect them all you want, but the developers aren't going to see it that way.

Zekira Drake · Jul 21, 2007 4:47 AM

Å½ Â· ...I didn't read the whole thread, so I'm asking right now if there was actually an official reference to the connection of all the storylines...? Because the ideas were very good...

Dragginwings · Jul 21, 2007 9:37 PM

Yeah, those ideas were awesome!

jamieque · Jul 22, 2007 5:14 PM

Lone Knight says:

I know with the new Spyro games, many people have believed that it throws the older Spyro's out the window. However, all of them still fit in the series together.
Here's the list of the games in chronological order.
~ The Legend of Spyro: A New Beginning
~ The Legend of Spyro: The Eternal Night
~ Spyro The Dragon
~ Spryo: Ripto's Rage / Gateway to Glimmer
~ Spyro: Year of the Dragon
~ Spryo: Enter the Dragonfly
~ Spyro: A Hero's Tail
History:
Note that PB refers to "Pre-Birth" of Spyro. AB refers to "After-Birth" of Spyro.

Unknown PB to 3000 PB - Various dragon tribes war with one another. Different tribes of dragons are identifiable by different colors and forms of fighting. All the cultures of the tribes are focused on their environments; fighting is also based on environmental surroundings.
3000 PB - The various dragon tribes unite into a single group, and a dragon king is chosen. King Drache is named king of the newly formed Dragon Kingdoms.
3000 PB to 1000 PB - The Kingdom stays in relative peace, despite minor conflicts with a Dragon-like race called the Drakes, and Rhinocs. Human tribes are discovered and accepted within the Dragon Kingdom.
1000 PB - A Drake sorceress casts a spell that banishes the Dragons from their homeland, which would become known as the Forgotten Worlds.
1000 PB to 100 PB - The banished Dragons began rebuilding their kingdom in a new homeworld. There is a collection of various races dwelling in the new lands.
100 PB to 12 PB - A demigod known as the Dark Master leads a horde into the lands of the New Dragon Kingdom, intent on enslaving it. The dragons and various races take sides and begin a fierce war. A dragon named Ignitus emerges as the face of the Resistance.
12 PB to 0 PB - The dragon prophet Drego makes a prophecy that in twelve years, a dragon will be born that will end the war with the Dark Master and save the Dragon Kingdom. The war turns badly for the New Dragon Kingdom, as more betray the Resistance and join the Dark Master.
0 - The Dark Master destroys hundreds of dragon eggs to prevent the savior dragon from being born. Ignitus retrieves the purple dragon's egg and sets it afloat a mushroom down a river leading away from the Dragon Kingdom. In lands bordering the Dragon Kingdom, a family of dragonflies find the egg when it hatches. Spyro the Dragon is born.
0 to 1 AB - The Resistance completely collapses as a fallen dragon named Cynder leads the Dark Master's forces in many victories that crush the Resistance armies. In a last ditch effort, the dragon prophet Drego casts the same spell cast by the Drake Sorceress a thousand years prior and banishes the Dark Master to a prison realm known as the Convexity. Drago dies from the energy drained from his body to commit the spell.
Cynder kills several of the Dark Master's other generals, and becomes the undisputed steward to the Dark Master. The Dragon Kingdom is completely taken over, and ruled with an iron fist. Those who defected to the Dark Master's side during the war are stripped of all rights, and those who fought against the Dark Master are oppressed even worse.
1 AB to 14 AB - The dragonflies raise the young dragon, named Spyro. Spyro believes he is a dragonfly. He is 'brothers' with a dragonfly born on the same day, named Sparx.
14 AB - Cynder plans to expand the empire of the Dark Master in anticipation for his return. Soldiers of the Dark Master's massive army are sent to conquer the lands immediately bordering the Dragon Kingdom.
A force reaches the dragonfly region. Spyro, forced to defend his family, discovered the ability to breathe fire. The aggressing forces were slaughtered, but messengers brought word to the Dragon Kingdom that a young, purple dragon was living outside of the Dragon Kingdom. This message was intercepted by the last surviving resistance forces, well hidden. Their leader, the still living Ignitus, traveled to the borders of the Dragon Kingdom, in search of the Dragon.
Spyro was found by Ignitus before Cynder's forces swarmed the area in search for him. Ignitus led Spyro to the old Dragon Temple, where he trained Spyro in various different combat techniques. Spyro then traveled to various strongholds of Cynder, freeing resistance members, and slaughtering Cynder's forces.
It was determined that Cynder was using power gems to drain the energy from living dragons in order to free the Dark Master. In relation to how the spell cast to banish the Dark Master drained Drago of his life energy, it was widely believed that gathering more life energy would free the Dark Master from his prison. Spyro stormed Cynder's castle, and followed Cynder to the Convexity in an attempt to stop her from unlocking the Dark Master. Cynder was beaten severely, and the Dark Master's influence was removed from her. Spyro and Cynder fled the Convexity.
The growing resistance movement began preparing themselves for the coming battles in ensuring that the Dark Master remained trapped, and to begin liberating the Dragon Kingdom.
15 AB - The Ape King, another of the Dark Master's generals attempts to free the Dark Master.
15 AB to 17 AB - The Dragon Kingdom is liberated from the remnants of the Dark Master's regime. The Gnorcs, a race that sided with the Dark Master's occupation, lost considerable power with the collapse of the Dark Master's empire. Provoked by the leaders of the Dragon Kingdom, the Gnorc leader, Gnasty, uses a spell from the Dark Master to begin imprisoning every dragon in the kingdom.
Spyro avoids the initial scourging of the attack. The Gnorc army begins siezing the lands of the Dragon Kingdom. Spyro single handedly slaughters most of the ill-trained Gnorc army and begins freeing many of the dragons. Gnasty is beaten severely by Spyro in a confrontation, and imprisoned. The remaining dragons are freed, and the Gnorcs agree to end fighting.
18 AB - The Dragon Kingdom is in a state of peace. In the nearby country of Avalar, the human King Bryan and a Queen Brenda have just died of old age. Days after, a portal is mistakenly opened to the Forgotten Worlds, and Rhinoc lord named Ripto emerges with two Drakes. With the lack of leadership, the denizens of Avalar put up a weak defense, and Ripto quickly takes over Avalar, and begins imposing his will on its peoples.
In a last ditch attempt, a portal is opened to the Dragon Kingdom in hopes a dragon will enter Avalar. Spyro, en route to Dragon Shores, is instead sent to Avalar. Ripto destroys the portal, preventing Spyro's escape. Luckily, Ripto's scepter is destroyed, and he retreats. Spyro then began helping the denizens of Avalar, helping them overthrow the foreign hostiles that Ripto brought in from the Forgotten Realms to enforce his rule. Spyro kills Ripto's two Drake bodyguards, and was believed to have killed Ripto himself. However, Ripto appeared to have survived. Nonetheless, his disappearance made many believe in his death, and the Avalar was freed of his rule.
19 AB - The Year of the Dragon, the year that the new generation of dragons would be born. However, a portal to the Forgotten Realms was opened, and all of the dragon eggs were stolen and taken back to the Forgotten Realms. The Sorceress, still alive, needed the wings from the dragons to create a spell enabling her to live forever.
Spyro and several others were sent to the Forgotten Realms, and began fighting the Sorceress' forces. However, the Sorceress' harsh rule had many of her denizens unhappy, and quickly there was a rebellion. Spyro killed the Sorceress, returned power to its people, and retrieved the dragon eggs.
20 AB - The celebration was being commenced where the newly born dragonflies were being bonded with their dragon partners for life. However, a horribly burned Ripto returned, and attempted a spell that would kill all of the dragonflies. However, the spell failed, and the dragonflies scattered throughout the Dragon Kingdom. Spyro was able to retrieve the dragonflies, destroy Ripto's mercenary forces, return order to the Kingdom, and slay Ripto once and for all.
21 AB - Since the Dragon Kingdom was no longer a true 'kingdom', it was ruled by a council of dragons rather than a single ruler. A dragon named Red was against the council's ruling of the Dragon Kingdom, favoring a more dictated rule. Red secretly had possession of items known as dark gems, which would corrupt anything they came in contact. It is believed that the gems corrupted Red rather than Red becoming angered with the council on his own accord. Red began placing these gems throughout the kingdom, and traveled to the lands outside of the kingdom, where Gnasty Gnorc had been banished with his surviving army, and offered the Gnorcs a chance to rule with him. Red also recruited several other minions in foreign lands.
Spyro began heading through the Dragon Kingdom, systematically destroying the dark gems. Along the way, Spyro slew the Gnorc army, eventually killing Gnasty Gnorc himself. However, the Gnorcs did not crumble with their leader's death. Instead, they began serving Red directly. Spyro then killed Red's other minions, and finally cornered Red in his lair. After a fierce battle, Red was captured and shrunk to a size where he posed no further danger.
Since that time, there have been no threats to the Dragon Kingdom. Nary a vile creature would show itself for many years. But a plot was being conjured that would soon pit the Dragon Kingdom into disaster....

Well done, LoneKnight. You have gotten the storyline ALMOST correct but there are a few missing details I'll add if you don't mind.

-The Legend of Spyro: A New Beginning & Eternal Night DO take place in the Forgotten Realms but the events that take place in the new trilogy take place in a time long before the original Insomiac Spyro is even born. The two dragons only share a name and color scheme but they are in fact not related to each other or the same dragon. The third game in the Legend of Spyro series which is due out in Late 2009, according to my sources, will detail how the battle ends. The battle against the Dark Master is pre-history and thus is lost history by the time the young Insomiac Games Spyro shows up on the scene.

Now, here is a few details no one has but you do need to know... The introduction of Ember, Flame and Red was originally suppose to be in a untitled 2002 Spyro film. The film was to also explain what happened to Bianca and Elora. The script for that film was written by one of the original creators of Spyro and was to be a 3d film. Universal accepted the script but it came with strings attached. I am sure many of you have heard rumors of an animated Spyro tv series... well the rumors are true. That canceled 2d series was the one of the strings that came attached to the film. The other string was a new game trilogy. The film script was accepted but as with all things in Hollywood the project didn't make it past the character design stage. This resulted in a domino effect that killed the Spyro tv series since the series was to continue the storyline of the film. Only the badly mangled concepts of the incomplete trilogy that started with A Hero's Tale and ended prematurely with the Nintendo DS Shadow Leagacy game survived. The third game, which was simply titled Spyro: (Untitled) was given the axe.

These dead aka lost chapters/adventures of Spyro's life are where I got the idea of Flame is Spyro's younger brother and some of Ember's background for my series. The movie script from what I was told would have mentioned that Spyro DOES in fact have siblings. He isn't the only child in his family but no other details were revealed because the film was suppose to leave everyone hanging on this mystery. Who are Spyro's siblings? Where did he come from? And so on and so forth... As I have said before about A Hero's Tale. Yes, it was actually or was suppose to be the start of a new trilogy of games being created by Eurocom Games or whatever their name was with some creative consulting from Insomiac Games and financial backing from Universal. The characters of Flame, Red and Ember are the only reminders of what could have been. Go back and play A Hero's Tale if you don't believe me...

See how Spyro acted toward Ember. Spyro's attitude toward her was not an accident or mistake it was a hint at much longer history between the two that none of us got the chance to see play out. The second game in the new trilogy was the mangled Nintendo DS & canceled PS2/Gamecube/XBOX Shadow Legacy. Did any of you find it strange that there was only a DS version and no PS2 version of that game... huh? Hello, there wasn't even a XBOX or Gamecube version... Isn't that strange?!

The reason is simply because the two versions were so radically different when came to the storyline and various details in each game that they didn't even relate to each other. The reason is simply because the DS game was suppose to play as a kinda side story while the console version of the Shadow Legacy game dealt with a dark dream that began to haunt Spyro and went from there. Remember what Red said to Spyro in A Hero's Tale about how much Spyro reminded him of himself when he was young... oh well... there is a reason for that statement which would have led to some rather interesting surprises. Unfortunately, due to the changes and cancellations of the film/series and console versions of Shadow Legacy the third and final game of that trilogy, which was to be the seventh installment of the original console Spyro game series, was canceled, killed or as I like to say erased. All this led to the development of the new Spyro series which is still linked to the original despite what Krome Games has been saying. How do I know this to be true... hmm... that is a good question. Well think about it. The original Spyro was learning how to do magic in Shadow Legacy when faced off against the Sorcerer. The new Spyro learned from Ignitus and the other Guardians to use his powers in Legend no. 1.

We are presented with a mystery of who is the Dark Master and what does he really look like. Think about it...

I got my hands on this info and much more from friends I know who work in the industry. I told them I was interested in doing a Spyro film for the fans and working on a new game saga. I asked them if there was any unknown info on Spyro that they knew and could pass along to help me out in my effort. They told me they would get back in touch with me and sure enough they sent me the info. I read through it and began to work out how I could reincorporate some of these lost ideas back into the series. Thus... the Spyro: Legacy of Ages film trilogy, Dragon of Destiny aka Heroes of Destiny, as the animated series will be called, and various future spinoff ideas were born. Now you guys know.

simon · Jul 23, 2007 12:57 PM

Ok, I guess LoneKnight missed something. I have no idea what are you saying at the part where you are taking about Spyro having siblings Jamieque. Are you taking about the movie your making? or the storys you wrote? :-P

LoneKnight · Jul 24, 2007 12:46 AM

Heh, in my opinion, if it wasn't released, it's not canon. So, even if it was planned to be in a TV series or movie, it doesn't make the cut if it wasn't released.

jamieque · Jul 30, 2007 8:36 PM

simon wrote:

Ok, I guess LoneKnight missed something. I have no idea what are you saying at the part where you are taking about Spyro having siblings Jamieque. Are you taking about the movie your making? or the storys you wrote? :-P

LoneKnight didn't miss too much, Simon. The info I have was not released to the public and even I am still trying to get more details. However, Simon, what I am saying is that the canceled 2002 Spyro film would have mentioned something about Spyro having siblings but not who they were. It was going to be a kinda mystery twist that was suppose to pop up at the end or near the end of the film leaving the audience and Spyro in total surprise. The film. which I really wish had been made now that I know more about it, was to be the first of a possible 3 films. The other 2 films, from what I was told, were outlined by the scriptwriter but that is all that was ever done. The cancellation of the first film killed any chances that the outlines for both sequels would be fleshed out into actual scripts.

From what I have heard a new realm and world was going to introduced in the films. The cancel tv series would have continued the plotlines of the films. As for my own film, Simon... no... I am not talking about my film. Legacy of Ages is a totally all new film premise. The canceled 2002 film is only serving as inspiration for the Legacy of Ages film and nothing more. My film, which is also the first of a planned 3 films, will be very different in scope and detail.

LoneKnight wrote:

Heh, in my opinion, if it wasn't released, it's not canon. So, even if it was planned to be in a TV series or movie, it doesn't make the cut if it wasn't released.

I agree with you, LoneKnight. Even so the fact that these ideas do in fact exist and were going to be part of the cannon originally before their cancellation is a good enough reason for me to use them as sort of foundation aka inspiration for the new films and series in production. My ideas are totally different from what the 2002 film would have been. The 2002 film was going to be Rated G from what I have learned. My Spyro film is Rated PG which should tell you that my storyline is much darker in scope then the other film would have been.

spyroid · Jul 31, 2007 9:40 PM

Interesting theory LoneKnight but I can disprove it with 2 words "PURPLE DRAGONS." You see Ignitus said purple dragons come one in every 10 generations, and a dragon can lay an egg every 12 years, so that would mean that it would take 120 years to make 1 purple dragon, and I remember 3 purple dragons in spyro I, so if the games were connected, spyro would be over 360 years old in spyro 1 !

LoneKnight · Jul 31, 2007 11:17 PM

The purple Dragons other then Spyro in Spyro 1 are much older than him. Who's to say they aren't hundreds of years old? There's nothing in the Spyro universe which indicates how dragons age.

jamieque · Aug 01, 2007 10:22 AM

LoneKnight wrote:

The purple Dragons other then Spyro in Spyro 1 are much older than him. Who's to say they aren't hundreds of years old? There's nothing in the Spyro universe which indicates how dragons age.

I totally agree, LoneKnight. However, the Spyro in Legend is clearly not the same dragon from the original trilogy. He is however an ancestor to the original Spyro. At least that is how I am playing the storyline in my series. I say this because by now all of you should know that there are 2 Spyros in Dragon of Destiny. The elder Spyro is the one from Legend. The younger Spyro is the one we met in the original trilogy. He is of course much older then he use to be but he is still the same purple dragon we have come to love... Well, he is a tad bit more serious but it is in a good way. Trust me... Once you read some of the upcoming new episode of Dragon of Destiny you will understand what I mean.

ice_missle · Jul 07, 2008 9:23 PM

That was an interesting story.

Juice box · Jul 08, 2008 12:09 AM

LoneKnight wrote:

That's my point Simon. People just treat the Spyro series like it got washed away by the new ones, but they all still fit perfectly.

I fail to see how they fit perfectly together when TLOS is a reboot. Evidence: Spyro is planned to meet Hunter in DOTD. When originally Spyro meets Hunter in Spyro 2 in Avalar. If it were a timeline in the way you said then there is a HUUUGGGEEE plothole. It's not as if he's just going to forget Hunter and Hunter forgets him.

LoneKnight · Jul 08, 2008 4:42 AM

Who's to say that Spyro didn't already know Hunter when he arrived in Avalar? Maybe TLOS series really does take place generations before the Insomniac Spyro's? Maybe the two we're making are both ancestors. And who knows what they plan to include in the last TLOS. Maybe they outsmarted us all. We already know they're smart enough to go back to creations made by Insomniac, so they are treading carefully with the past games, which shows they want us to learn something.

TheManiacOnWheels · Jul 08, 2008 4:51 AM

jamieque wrote:

Well done, LoneKnight. You have gotten the storyline ALMOST correct but there are a few missing details I'll add if you don't mind.
-The Legend of Spyro: A New Beginning & Eternal Night DO take place in the Forgotten Realms but the events that take place in the new trilogy take place in a time long before the original Insomiac Spyro is even born. The two dragons only share a name and color scheme but they are in fact not related to each other or the same dragon. The third game in the Legend of Spyro series which is due out in Late 2009, according to my sources, will detail how the battle ends. The battle against the Dark Master is pre-history and thus is lost history by the time the young Insomiac Games Spyro shows up on the scene.
Now, here is a few details no one has but you do need to know... The introduction of Ember, Flame and Red was originally suppose to be in a untitled 2002 Spyro film. The film was to also explain what happened to Bianca and Elora. The script for that film was written by one of the original creators of Spyro and was to be a 3d film. Universal accepted the script but it came with strings attached. I am sure many of you have heard rumors of an animated Spyro tv series... well the rumors are true. That canceled 2d series was the one of the strings that came attached to the film. The other string was a new game trilogy. The film script was accepted but as with all things in Hollywood the project didn't make it past the character design stage. This resulted in a domino effect that killed the Spyro tv series since the series was to continue the storyline of the film. Only the badly mangled concepts of the incomplete trilogy that started with A Hero's Tale and ended prematurely with the Nintendo DS Shadow Leagacy game survived. The third game, which was simply titled Spyro: (Untitled) was given the axe.
These dead aka lost chapters/adventures of Spyro's life are where I got the idea of Flame is Spyro's younger brother and some of Ember's background for my series. The movie script from what I was told would have mentioned that Spyro DOES in fact have siblings. He isn't the only child in his family but no other details were revealed because the film was suppose to leave everyone hanging on this mystery. Who are Spyro's siblings? Where did he come from? And so on and so forth... As I have said before about A Hero's Tale. Yes, it was actually or was suppose to be the start of a new trilogy of games being created by Eurocom Games or whatever their name was with some creative consulting from Insomiac Games and financial backing from Universal. The characters of Flame, Red and Ember are the only reminders of what could have been. Go back and play A Hero's Tale if you don't believe me...
See how Spyro acted toward Ember. Spyro's attitude toward her was not an accident or mistake it was a hint at much longer history between the two that none of us got the chance to see play out. The second game in the new trilogy was the mangled Nintendo DS & canceled PS2/Gamecube/XBOX Shadow Legacy. Did any of you find it strange that there was only a DS version and no PS2 version of that game... huh? Hello, there wasn't even a XBOX or Gamecube version... Isn't that strange?!
The reason is simply because the two versions were so radically different when came to the storyline and various details in each game that they didn't even relate to each other. The reason is simply because the DS game was suppose to play as a kinda side story while the console version of the Shadow Legacy game dealt with a dark dream that began to haunt Spyro and went from there. Remember what Red said to Spyro in A Hero's Tale about how much Spyro reminded him of himself when he was young... oh well... there is a reason for that statement which would have led to some rather interesting surprises. Unfortunately, due to the changes and cancellations of the film/series and console versions of Shadow Legacy the third and final game of that trilogy, which was to be the seventh installment of the original console Spyro game series, was canceled, killed or as I like to say erased. All this led to the development of the new Spyro series which is still linked to the original despite what Krome Games has been saying. How do I know this to be true... hmm... that is a good question. Well think about it. The original Spyro was learning how to do magic in Shadow Legacy when faced off against the Sorcerer. The new Spyro learned from Ignitus and the other Guardians to use his powers in Legend no. 1.
We are presented with a mystery of who is the Dark Master and what does he really look like. Think about it...
I got my hands on this info and much more from friends I know who work in the industry. I told them I was interested in doing a Spyro film for the fans and working on a new game saga. I asked them if there was any unknown info on Spyro that they knew and could pass along to help me out in my effort. They told me they would get back in touch with me and sure enough they sent me the info. I read through it and began to work out how I could reincorporate some of these lost ideas back into the series. Thus... the Spyro: Legacy of Ages film trilogy, Dragon of Destiny aka Heroes of Destiny, as the animated series will be called, and various future spinoff ideas were born. Now you guys know.

Jamieque, do you think you could find some more info, perhaps websites or pictures about that? It's got me interested.

Juice box · Jul 08, 2008 5:02 AM

LoneKnight wrote:

Who's to say that Spyro didn't already know Hunter when he arrived in Avalar?

Well I can remember Spyro arriving in Avalar in Spyro 2 he said "What? Haven't you ever seen a dragon before?" to Hunter etc. Also he somewhat insults Hunter calling him pussycat in the first scene. Other things were said as well that clarify that Spyro did not know Hunter prior to Spyro 2. I just can't remember them.

ratchet · Jul 08, 2008 11:42 AM

Nice job Loneknight, but i'm afraid your timeline has many plotholes in it, not to mention that TLOS is supposed to be a reboot, and hence a whole new storyline. But yes, i have also tried to create my own Story which connects the series, but it is nothing like yours.Heres just a few plotholes from many:
1.If the originals took place with the same Spyro, What happened to Spyro's Powers, what happened to his personality, and his appearence has completely changed.
2.every dragon in the originals appears to be a bi-pod or whatever you call things that stand on 2 legs, while Ignitus and the others stood on 4 legs.
3.theres no mention of Cynder or the dragon guardians in the originals.
4.Gnasty Gnorc froze the dragons not because of anything to do with the darkmaster, THe Original games didn't even MENTION the darkmaster, we all know that he had been concucting a spell HIMSELF for years to come, and he was only banished because he couldn't seem to live with the dragons properly. Also, Gnorcs lived with the Dragons in peace, they left when Gnasty started creating fake gnorcs and came back after the events of Spyro the Dragon.
5.TLOS Spyro was supposed to be frozen at the end of TEN, not to mention DOTD doesn't take place in your story.
6.The Sourcerous wasn't a "drake" She defiently wasn't any Creature related to a dragon
7.Juicebox's Hunter Plothole
8.Many dragons in Spyro 1 are Purple, this game was supposed to take place just after TEN, and the dragons seem to be older than Spyro. Do you see where i'm going with this?....
9.Read This- http://www.spyroforum.com/post-58428.html#58428

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