Spyrorocks I apologise

reddragon12 · Aug 21, 2008 7:54 AM

Spyrorocks i apologise for the situation with pming between AntR and myself ,but one thing was not made clear to me why were my pms disabled too wheni did not ask for such a thing nor to agree to it. I apologise again and one more for creating a topic to say i am sorry for what happened and what was said.
my apologies

Antr the Rolf · Aug 21, 2008 10:09 PM

I am sorry RD12 for getting you into this..please..forgive me.And SR..please understand..I have stopped..permantely..not doing that.

Aicebo · Aug 21, 2008 11:54 PM

How will we know that you won't do something like that again?

Stormy · Aug 22, 2008 12:01 AM

ontels · Aug 22, 2008 9:27 AM

I cant remember what they did

reddragon12 · Aug 22, 2008 4:00 PM

i'm sorry AntR but, he said some stuff and Spyrorocks reacted in disableing our PMs so we can talk to no one else
we can't send any ,but please Spyrorocks at least tell me why mine were disabled too?

cynderfan · Aug 25, 2008 6:05 AM

I don't think this should be the place to talk about it...

reddragon12 · Aug 25, 2008 6:21 PM

and how else will i be able to say that i'm sorry?

John Man 1234 · Aug 26, 2008 12:05 AM

Guys what happend exactly?

Aicebo · Aug 26, 2008 12:13 AM

John Man 1234 · Aug 26, 2008 12:17 AM

I do not even know how to respond to that there so young to yet my this is very troubling.

Fletch_Talon · Aug 26, 2008 1:52 AM

i think there was more subtlety to it than that, i think the word "mate" was used instead of sex, still the underlying theme was there and its not one that should be discussed by a 13 and a 12 year old in private messages.

ontels · Aug 26, 2008 9:03 AM

oh....finally someone tells me what happend and now I dont want to know

reddragon12 · Aug 26, 2008 9:53 AM

thankyou for bringing it all in again I just wanted to apologise to Spyrorocks

John Man 1234 · Aug 26, 2008 3:07 PM

Ok I'm sure he'll look at it but still you two asking for I am not even going to say at such a young age Rolf is like a lovestruck yearling.

Papu · Aug 26, 2008 3:58 PM

A Guy · Aug 26, 2008 4:44 PM

I believe you were right to defend your friend.

However, once I found out the measures you were taking to defend your friend, I no longer agreed with you.

Spyrorocks · Aug 26, 2008 6:24 PM

Banned once again. Stop evading bans. Once again, ignorance against reading the privacy policy to which you agreed to when registering.

I will need to take the forum's proxy protection up a level.

John Man 1234 · Aug 26, 2008 7:48 PM

You two were best friends hmm you learn something new everyday.

Fletch_Talon · Aug 27, 2008 12:04 AM

bullcrap

13 yr olds do not have the right to that kind of privacy, you dont let a 13 yr old boy and a 12 yr old girl sit in a room on their own with complete privacy, you leave the door open and check up on them every so often, and the results of this incident clearly show why

i dont recall seeing these PMs posted, at least not for the general forum to see, perhaps i missed something? but all i recall seeing are e-mails sent to spyrorocks insulting him for his decisions

EDIT: ive now discovered that they were originally posted on the wall of shame, though i assume theyve since been taken down, either that or im looking at the wrong link

either way i really wish i hadn't seen it as it made me feel ill
as for whether or not spyrorocks should have posted them for all to see, i agree that it is incredibly humiliating, but thats frankly a good thing, humiliation on that level is going to sink in faster than a "temp-ban"

just goes to show, its a general forum, just because theyre called private messages doesnt mean you should be posting things that you would get banned for in general chat

Phoenix_Flyer · Aug 27, 2008 12:06 PM

I agree with Fletch. The friendship Dopple has shown is awesome. But privacy? Bah, people moan about the increase in drug use, teen drinking, under-age sex and teenage pregnancies. But incidents like this show the reason why. Young people shouldn't get total privacy, your own personal space yes, but not to the extent that you don't know what they're doing.
So many 'rights' have been enforced that young people don't learn what is decent and what isn't. They don't learn about consequences and have no respect for authority. The reason? THEY DON'T GET PUNISHED IN A WAY THAT THEY LEARN LESSONS AND RESPECT! When I was at my Great Aunt's we discussed something similar to this. A relative works at a school which all the expelled and deliquent students go to. The kids there are arrogant little shyts from the ages of 6 to 17. In one incident a little kid went on one. He kicked and injured his teacher, spitting at him and what-not. When the headmistress came he clawed at her face and injured her really bad. And yet they couldn't do anything to him other than hold him away from them, and the kid knew this. When the police came all they did was tie his hands and feet up with tape and when his parents came they took him home. He was overheard bragging about his experience the next day..... Another girl threw a paddy and overturned all of the tables and just completely trashed the room. All the teacher was allowed to do by law was just try and talk her out of it, she couldn't touch her. And to put a cherry on top of the cake, when the girls' father came he said; 'Did you turn all these tables over yourself?'. She said yes and he replied; 'Well aren't you a strong girl then?'
I find this shocking, if I did that (though I wouldn't actually dare do it in the first place), my father would make me put everything back the way it was, no matter how much I screamed. Then I would be marched home by my hair and sent to bed with a sore bottom. Even the police nowadays can't do much to youths causing trouble in the streets. Two coppers were attacked recently by youths and yet they didn't fight back even though they did have things which they could have protected themselves with. When we were watching the CCTV tape on the news me and my family just thought; 'why didn't they just bludgeon a couple of them around the head? That would stop them, give them a souvenir to remember the fight by and teach them respect for police'! So what if it hurts their feelings or gives them a couple of bruises? I doubt they would cause that kind of trouble again, which would help the community in the long-run. And they will have learnt a couple of valuable lessons that they won't forget in a hurry. They would learn what they can and can't do.
I think its the same principal here. While it wasn't pleasant for SR to post their posts in public, they will have learnt a lesson. I doubt they will do it again somehow. They no doubt will have known that those posts were stupid and wrong, and the lesson will now have been learnt that you don't send messages to each other if you can be humiliated by them. End of story.

Blaze the Dragon · Aug 27, 2008 12:21 PM

And yet, is using something to humiliate them also something to do, professionally and/or morally? A ban for what they did would be just, as it was with Doppel, but to humiliate someone on a forum that holds thousands of people to view, like what happened with the PMs on the Wall of Shame, and the incident with Doppel in SpyroChat? That's incredibly harsh. I'm not taking anyone's side in this, I'm staying neutral, while at the same time expressing my own opinion. If you don't like it, tough, it's my opinion, not yours, and I'm not saying you have to agree with me. I'm basically playing the "Abraham Lincoln Card."

A Guy · Aug 27, 2008 12:42 PM

It is perfectly fine to stay neutral on this issue, Blaze.

ontels · Aug 27, 2008 1:02 PM

phoenix flyer you are my new hero

Phoenix_Flyer · Aug 27, 2008 2:20 PM

Yep, you're entitled to your own opinion. I wasn't trying to change anyone else's with my essay. Just expressing my view and opinion on the matter. Would they really learn anything if they were just banned though? My main point though is that they were PMing stuff that was indecent. SR reacted (even if a little too harshly) by posting it up in public. Moral of the story? Don't PM people something if you would be ashamed of it being read out in public. It's like people passing notes about in class and the teacher spots it and reads it out in front of everyone. If you didn't want the humiliation then why write the note in the first place?

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