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#1 Apr 30, 2008 9:38 PM

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OK I DO NOT UNDERSTAND THIS!!!

Ok, In ANB, Cynder had one power and that was fire.  And Now in Dawn of The Dragon, she has four.  WHAT THE H*LL?!  And she also has poison, shadow, fear, and wind.  Okay, I can understand the fear/shadow thing, but I thought purple dragons like Spyro were the only ones that could have that many powers.  WHAT THE F*CK?!  I mean, there's nothing wrong with that.  I actually think it's really cool.  But, what happened to her dark flames?  I just don't understand it makes no sense......


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#2 Apr 30, 2008 10:15 PM

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Re: OK I DO NOT UNDERSTAND THIS!!!

Well, I assume that it's a natural tie-in with being a black dragon; she controls a specific element, i.e., Dark, but Cynder's powers are just all the variations of that particular element. Spyro's first earth element used those whirlwind things as well as the typical ground stuff, so I guess they're just branches of the same main power, whereas Spyro wields all of the elements and their tie-ins.

Or something.
Maybe Spyro's magical purpleness has been rubbing off on her, I dunno. =P

And perhaps the absence of her dark fire was simply due to the fact it was almost exactly like Spyro's regular flame element, only a shade darker. Either that or it was a bonus for being the Dark Master's servant.
I look forward to using Fear, whatever that is; maybe she'll perform a classic 'evil-Cynder' roar that the minions might remember back when she was on the dark side (of the Force, ahaha, oh I'm so sorry XD), thus making them want to run away onoez.
... I just really wanna do that evil Cynder roar to be honest.

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#3 Apr 30, 2008 10:15 PM

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Re: OK I DO NOT UNDERSTAND THIS!!!

Personally, I think the new poweres are great. Its a good way to balance things out, since Spyro has 4 powers, it would only be fair if Cynder had 4 powers as well.

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#4 Apr 30, 2008 10:20 PM

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Re: OK I DO NOT UNDERSTAND THIS!!!

Ok, its just freaking awsome........ and think about her..... there is no element for darkness, and darkness does not have a specific element... I bet the darkness is a dark flame...

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#5 Apr 30, 2008 10:23 PM

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Re: OK I DO NOT UNDERSTAND THIS!!!

I think her new powers sound pretty cool, and I don't think they're unusual at all. Remember that Cynder grew up under the DM's influence and spent at least six months (if not several years) directly under his control. That probably affected her in many ways and gave her more abilities than an ordinary dragon might have. She's good at heart, but just look at the things she has control over: poison, fear? That's pretty harsh and I don't think any dragon who hadn't been corrupted could make use of those powers.

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#6 May 01, 2008 1:40 AM

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Re: OK I DO NOT UNDERSTAND THIS!!!

Razz wrote:

I think her new powers sound pretty cool, and I don't think they're unusual at all. Remember that Cynder grew up under the DM's influence and spent at least six months (if not several years) directly under his control. That probably affected her in many ways and gave her more abilities than an ordinary dragon might have. She's good at heart, but just look at the things she has control over: poison, fear? That's pretty harsh and I don't think any dragon who hadn't been corrupted could make use of those powers.

im all with you there razz


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#7 May 01, 2008 3:45 AM

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Re: OK I DO NOT UNDERSTAND THIS!!!

Cynders powers are a shootoff of her dark upbringing, but now she's uusing them on Spyro's enemies instead of Spyro. Wind, and Fear are new breaths, and fit in with her well. Appasasrently they are tethered together so it is likely they will fight the Dm together.

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#8 May 01, 2008 4:12 AM

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Re: OK I DO NOT UNDERSTAND THIS!!!

CynderFan101, if you think it's really cool, what's with the indignant shouting and profanity? tongue

I'm with Razz. Most of Cynder's powers make perfect sense given her background (wind is the only one I find a little questionable), and they're not really elements, so it doesn't conflict with what we know of dragons. Speaking of which -- someone correct me if I'm wrong, as it's been a while since I've played ANB (unfortunately I gave it to the destructive cousins along with the old PS2 XD) -- I don't think we know exactly what kind of dragon Cynder is. I don't recall black dragons being mentioned as a specific breed; do we know that Cynder wasn't born as something else, like a fire dragon, and then completely altered by dark magic?

Speculation aside, the short answer is that Cynder has extra powers to balance gameplay so that she's not outclassed by Spyro. tongue

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#9 May 01, 2008 4:47 AM

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Re: OK I DO NOT UNDERSTAND THIS!!!

Poison, shadow, fear, and wind -
Sounds oh so exciting.
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#10 May 01, 2008 6:04 AM

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Re: OK I DO NOT UNDERSTAND THIS!!!

I am pretty confusedc myself. Firstlt, she's not a purple dragon, so she can not breath more than one breath. Secondly, her element was fire. Thirdly, WHAT KIND OF ELEMENT IS "FEAR" and "SHADOW"?
But whe it comes to gameplay mechanics, having 4 breaths like spyro is a necassary thing otherwise the game would'nt work right.

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#11 May 01, 2008 8:34 AM

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Re: OK I DO NOT UNDERSTAND THIS!!!

Um... one question please.

Source on Cynder's Four Elements? Unless I see it, it never happened.

I just want to clarify if all the 4 elements of Cynder are true.

And to clear it up, I don't think Fire was Cynder's Element in ANB. I thought it more of Darkness/Pain.


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#12 May 01, 2008 10:31 AM

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Re: OK I DO NOT UNDERSTAND THIS!!!

Zekira Drake wrote:

Source on Cynder's Four Elements? Unless I see it, it never happened.

All four are mentioned in the massive DotD info post on the SpyroWorld main page, though the exact source for that quote does not seem to be credited. (Edit: This appears to be the source of the quote, and it was linked in the news post.) However, poison, shadow and fear are mentioned in various places, like here, here and here. Wind is the only one I haven't found mention of anywhere else, but personally I see no reason to doubt it.

ratchet wrote:

Firstlt, she's not a purple dragon, so she can not breath more than one breath. Secondly, her element was fire. Thirdly, WHAT KIND OF ELEMENT IS "FEAR" and "SHADOW"?

It's dark magic. Cynder was corrupted by dark magic, thus she has dark powers that a normal dragon does not. I don't understand the confusion here. Her powers are not elemental. Why should they have to be?

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#13 May 01, 2008 12:33 PM

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Re: OK I DO NOT UNDERSTAND THIS!!!

Chris Wilson said she had wind powers in his interview, so that's official.

I don't think Cynder had any powers in ANB that we saw in action. Her ability to breathe fire looked specifically like a gift from the DM, and I noticed that her fire breath was very weak in comparison to Spyro's, which says that it is not a natural power to her.

I wouldn't be surprised if she was born a wind dragon (dusky gray could easily be a wind color) or some other elemental dragon but the DM's influence corrupted even her coloration (something I've theorized in the past).

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#14 May 01, 2008 9:01 PM

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Re: OK I DO NOT UNDERSTAND THIS!!!

I guess so Razz.  Yeah and I did notice her fire breath was weaker than Spyro's.  Also, it was darker colored, meaning that it wasn't as intense.


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#15 May 02, 2008 1:15 AM

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Re: OK I DO NOT UNDERSTAND THIS!!!

Fear sounds cool. I'd like to see Cynder unleash some of her, uh, darker side on those who turned her against her own kind.


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