The Unofficial New Versus Old Debate Thread!

Keby · May 14, 2008 4:28 AM

Hey, I noticed that there is a group of people who like the old Spyro games, and another group of people who like the new The Legend of Spyro games. So I made this thread where we can *cough* battle *cough*, I mean debate, which one we think is better. This will prevent arguments in threads not about the topic which I have seen a lot of.

Rules are:

1. No being rude or fascist.
2. Respect other people's opinions.
3. Have good old fun!

Keby · May 14, 2008 4:30 AM

So anyways, I think that the old Spyro games are much better, although the new ones are not that bad, because the old ones had better gameplay instead of just butting mashing your way through linear levels. The new one does have a more developed story though, but it feels more like you are watching a movie then playing a game.

Aicebo · May 14, 2008 5:17 AM

Old.
There's cool glitches.
And you can change colors.
And the games themselves are fun. =]

Out of the first three games, YotD is first, the original is second, and Gateway to Glimmer is third.

I didn't like Gateway to Glimmer much, though. =/

ratchet · May 14, 2008 5:59 AM

I'm sorry but i will not be "competing" in this topic, there was a topic likethis called "the debate to end all debates" which got flushed down the toilet, i think this one will too. But, reguardless, old.

Spyro_Loves_Me · May 14, 2008 6:06 AM

I enjoy both for various reasons.

spyromaster330 · May 14, 2008 9:08 AM

the new spyro is good but i prefer old. The levels in old are funner and it has better characters.

pur · May 14, 2008 9:44 AM

The official new or old Spyro sticky at the top of Spyro chat. Did you see that? Yeah, it's this thread, only more useful.

Being observant is the key to maximum prosperity...and minimum annoyance.

ratchet · May 14, 2008 12:30 PM

pur wrote:

The official new or old Spyro sticky at the top of Spyro chat. Did you see that? Yeah, it's this thread, only more useful.

Dude, thats a poll, this is a discussion topic, big difference.

pur · May 14, 2008 4:30 PM

ratchet wrote:

pur wrote:
The official new or old Spyro sticky at the top of Spyro chat. Did you see that? Yeah, it's this thread, only more useful.
Dude, thats a poll, this is a discussion topic, big difference.

Discussion? All I've seen is "Old is better" or "I like the new ones more", from most people. Besides, if it DID get to anything more than that, one spark could cause a flame war.

Keby · May 15, 2008 4:13 AM

If this thread does not do very well, I guess it does not matter much. I just made it to attempt to get people to argue it out in here, instead of in other threads.

I personally think that the level design in the old Spyro games were much better, and the characters were much more memorable. One thing that really bugs me about the new games, are that it has linear gameplay. No free roaming world, linear (one way only) levels, and no returning to previous levels.

ratchet · May 15, 2008 7:50 AM

pur wrote:

ratchet wrote:
pur wrote:
The official new or old Spyro sticky at the top of Spyro chat. Did you see that? Yeah, it's this thread, only more useful.
Dude, thats a poll, this is a discussion topic, big difference.
Discussion? All I've seen is "Old is better" or "I like the new ones more", from most people. Besides, if it DID get to anything more than that, one spark could cause a flame war.

Yeah i know, but it isn't the same as the other one, and people are posting more things than their general opinion, i havn't because i know alot of people here feel very defensive.

But, if i have to argue with one thing, it would be "THe Originals have nothing but gameplay". I disagree because their story is much more developed than some stories (eg. ETD, AHT, SOI, SOF, SL, Orange).
For one, The originals have a clear reason for why Spyro is the only one for the job, Something which no other Spyro games (Besides TLOS) explain. Maybe in Later games the only reason may be because he's a hero, i wanteed that...
Anyway, The Orginals had AWESOME graphics for its time, VERY GOOD for the PS1, it had lots of colours and textures but still didn't burn your eyes. In Spyro 2 and 3, each level had its own story. There were many species and enemies, Graphical Glitches were Very rare.

My Definition of A game with nothing but gameplay would be a one with Grey or lack of colours, Only one texture, no story, one enemy and specie etc
Saying the originals was nothing but gameplay is not right at all.

Keby · May 15, 2008 3:06 PM

ratchet wrote:

pur wrote:
ratchet wrote:
Dude, thats a poll, this is a discussion topic, big difference.
Discussion? All I've seen is "Old is better" or "I like the new ones more", from most people. Besides, if it DID get to anything more than that, one spark could cause a flame war.
Yeah i know, but it isn't the same as the other one, and people are posting more things than their general opinion, i havn't because i know alot of people here feel very defensive.
But, if i have to argue with one thing, it would be "THe Originals have nothing but gameplay". I disagree because their story is much more developed than some stories (eg. ETD, AHT, SOI, SOF, SL, Orange).
For one, The originals have a clear reason for why Spyro is the only one for the job, Something which no other Spyro games (Besides TLOS) explain. Maybe in Later games the only reason may be because he's a hero, i wanteed that...
Anyway, The Orginals had AWESOME graphics for its time, VERY GOOD for the PS1, it had lots of colours and textures but still didn't burn your eyes. In Spyro 2 and 3, each level had its own story. There were many species and enemies, Graphical Glitches were Very rare.
My Definition of A game with nothing but gameplay would be a one with Grey or lack of colours, Only one texture, no story, one enemy and specie etc
Saying the originals was nothing but gameplay is not right at all.

Yeah, the story in The Legend of Spyro is good as well, except there are many elements to it that I do not like. For example, the fact that he was raised by dragonflies kind of annoys me, because I cannot see how he is so stupid that he did not realize it earlier.

Spyro_Loves_Me · May 16, 2008 5:03 AM

Oh, oh! I can!
You just gotta think. He's never seen anyone else of his type before. He opened his eyes up to dragonflies. Now if you go deep into it, I'm sure he rose up questions about why he looked different, but parents always lie - you know that. And of course he fell for it with him being so young.

ratchet · May 16, 2008 8:05 AM

getting raised by different animals and thinking your one of them is a classic cliche in stories. Eg. Tarzan he was raised by Gorilas. I Believe that spyro is pretty stupid too but i have gotton used to it. TLOs story is so good that you dont worry about things like that.
Oh and when i said that i didn't mean that TLOS had no colours, texture, story ect

Keby · May 16, 2008 6:53 PM

I guess so, it just seems very cliche to me, and I never thought Spyro was that stupid.

ratchet · May 17, 2008 12:43 AM

Maybe TLOS Spyro IS that thick. Sparx would have surely been weirded out that Spyro Looks Far different than his parents, or maybe sparx thought that you start off like that and turn into a normal dragonfly, maybe he thought he looked like Spyro.
Who knows but i agree, its pretty plotwholed (no offence to TLOS though)

Keby · May 17, 2008 12:45 AM

Yeah, I think I would have liked The Legend of Spyro a lot better if they kept some of the old storyline and put in an open world, with maybe at least some collectibles and Gems.

Juice box · May 17, 2008 12:53 AM

The Originals had more originality to them. TLOS seems to be a typical dark storyline. There's not really much creativity to TLOS.

Keby · May 17, 2008 1:11 AM

Juice box wrote:

The Originals had more originality to them. TLOS seems to be a typical dark storyline. There's not really much creativity to TLOS.

Yeah, but some people think that the storyline in The Legend of Spyro is more developed, and thus more creative. I think that this is true, but the originality and creativity were in the gameplay of the original Spyros.

corky · May 17, 2008 2:49 AM

I prefer the old series better than TLoS. There more fun and there not as serious.

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