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#51 Jan 30, 2009 10:01 PM

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Re: Turning Spyro into something he's not

Something tells me...that the TLOS wasn't a total failure. I know, the story and gameplay gig are unbalanced and it sold for a amount of 1 million but at least they could take their time. Time to experiment, assemble, check over the details, test it, make adjustments if needed, and... have some outside help.

(I wish my mother would shut up... She's distracting me and I find it difficult to focus. Ugh.)


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#52 Jan 30, 2009 11:17 PM

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LoS was far from a failure for Sierra. Yes the games had many small issues that aquire desperate attention...but all in all it could have been much much worse in my mind. The game did end up selling well and did manage to attact the new fanbase they were looking for....so for Sierra they most likely find themselves in a very good position with the character.


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#53 Jan 31, 2009 2:28 AM

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While LoS Might of been an epic fail for some fans, yes, It did sell well enough, And More TLOS games will continue to sell.

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#54 Jan 31, 2009 2:47 AM

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Well we can only hope that they will create a better blend that satisfies all of the fans for the next time around.


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#55 Jan 31, 2009 3:39 AM

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Re: Turning Spyro into something he's not

What sucks even more, is that Spyro is now in some sort of spirit realm.
How the ---- are they going to get him out of there? Make a new Spyro born?


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#56 Jan 31, 2009 3:42 AM

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We don't know if he is in a spirit realm....even though you can approach it from both angles....but the evidence steers me more towards the belief that they are alive and well in the real world...but we will have to wait and see.


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#57 Jan 31, 2009 4:48 AM

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Yea, i'll have to agree with that, there pretty dark and have no humor.........


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#58 Jan 31, 2009 5:08 AM

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Malefor in ANB/TEN - A Very dangerous fo with completely evil intensions (Controlling the world)
Melefor in DOTD - A Total let down, and intensions seem to be completely insane and psycotic. Wanting to take over and control the world is one thing, but desstroying it, including himself is a bit retarded. I think it was Estranges' fault. Krome wanted the story different and could of done it better.

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#59 Jan 31, 2009 5:10 AM

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Re: Turning Spyro into something he's not

RedDragonX wrote:

Well we can only hope that they will create a better blend that satisfies all of the fans for the next time around.

If that happens... *sigh* who knows. I'm just hoping that they take their time with it. I know the economy is bad all across America, but still, that's no excuse to rush. And that goes for this movie too. I'm hoping it doesn't come out until 2010 or next summer. I know some of you are anticipating it, but one shouldn't rush greatness.

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#60 Jan 31, 2009 11:02 AM

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they r still alive spyro and cynder r i gonna wiv the idea that they got out ok bt i dunno how and the nxt game will b about putting the wrld bak together liek collecting some special crystals or something to make the world whole again and they hav to face the underground golems that malefor said about in DOTD bt thats just me


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#61 Feb 01, 2009 1:29 AM

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ratchet wrote:

Malefor in ANB/TEN - A Very dangerous fo with completely evil intensions (Controlling the world)
Melefor in DOTD - A Total let down, and intensions seem to be completely insane and psycotic. Wanting to take over and control the world is one thing, but desstroying it, including himself is a bit retarded. I think it was Estranges' fault. Krome wanted the story different and could of done it better.

True that man. I mean...was it just me....or like....when they had all those cutscenes and flashbacks to Malefor and just what he was all about in ANB and TEN.....seriously I was creeped out by it....Krome did a good job presenting him as a very evil antagonist that you couldn't even see.....when I went to fight him for real in DotD....It sent chills down my spine for a moment because I thought it was gonna be down right dark and insanity....but then......it was more funny instead.

I don't know who's fault that is...most likely EL.....but he was way off what he should have been in the end.


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#62 Feb 01, 2009 1:33 AM

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Re: Turning Spyro into something he's not

RedDragonX wrote:
ratchet wrote:

Malefor in ANB/TEN - A Very dangerous fo with completely evil intensions (Controlling the world)
Melefor in DOTD - A Total let down, and intensions seem to be completely insane and psycotic. Wanting to take over and control the world is one thing, but desstroying it, including himself is a bit retarded. I think it was Estranges' fault. Krome wanted the story different and could of done it better.

True that man. I mean...was it just me....or like....when they had all those cutscenes and flashbacks to Malefor and just what he was all about in ANB and TEN.....seriously I was creeped out by it....Krome did a good job presenting him as a very evil antagonist that you couldn't even see.....when I went to fight him for real in DotD....It sent chills down my spine for a moment because I thought it was gonna be down right dark and insanity....but then......it was more funny instead.

I don't know who's fault that is...most likely EL.....but he was way off what he should have been in the end.

They did Malefor a little too far to me.He looks scary and that sanatic voice he has just freaked me out.I like Malefor but he looks like a realistic Red O_O.

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#63 Feb 01, 2009 3:49 AM

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Well look at the crash games their zany, funny and random while the spyro games kinda lost its style and humor.


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#64 Feb 01, 2009 5:02 AM

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Jackson117 wrote:

Well look at the crash games their zany, funny and random while the spyro games kinda lost its style and humor.

Well the new games were not meant ot be like the originals lol....not to the point where random funny things were happening. It's just a totally different style and approach.


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#65 Feb 01, 2009 7:54 AM

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Still i got a kick outta how crunch talked and how everyone reacted to stuff.


Also why does tiny speak gay? 0_O


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#66 Feb 01, 2009 12:24 PM

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Crash Has aged much better than spyro in my opinion, but I havn't played any of the new ones (CTTR on) but every one before that has been avarage or good, and atleast The crash games have stayed more true to the series, still comical and funny, even if the few games' characters are too different and retarded than they originally were.
In my opinion, The more a game can stick to it's roots but be better at the same time, the more fans there will be.

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#67 Feb 01, 2009 5:04 PM

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Hmm, would you say that LOS would be better if they kept the original formula even with the countless enemies and what not? Of course, bringing back the Speedways, portals, collecting stuff, and the constant fighting of enemies, the story, and characters.

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#68 Feb 02, 2009 4:06 AM

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I personally would like a mix of the gameplay of TLOS and the originals. While I don't really agree with using Spyro in TLOS instead of just creating a new character, I definitely do not agree with making Spyro an M-rated game.


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#69 Feb 02, 2009 4:39 AM

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Saeth wrote:

Hmm, would you say that LOS would be better if they kept the original formula even with the countless enemies and what not? Of course, bringing back the Speedways, portals, collecting stuff, and the constant fighting of enemies, the story, and characters.

That is a debate that has been ongoing for a very long time. Their are many different aspects of this from which you can approach the subject....but it really goes down to the reasons why Insomniac did what they did and where Spyro has gone from there. They felt that they couldn't continue to be successful with the character development...and wanted a more usable character they could build upon.

Wether or not Spyro would have been successful should Insomniac continued to create the games is something we will never know..but they made their decision and stuck to it.....the same formula was attempted afterwards with ETD and AHT...both failing to deliever to full expectations....and so things changed once more. We will never really know....but I feel that Spyro would have gone down further had they kept going with the original direction....at least with the companies who were in charge of his development.


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#70 Feb 02, 2009 7:10 AM

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ratchet wrote:

Crash Has aged much better than spyro in my opinion, but I havn't played any of the new ones (CTTR on) but every one before that has been avarage or good, and atleast The crash games have stayed more true to the series, still comical and funny, even if the bew games' characters are too different and retarded than they originally were.
In my opinion, The more a game can stick to it's roots but be better at the same time, the more fans there will be.


You forgot one flaw They made tiny GAY


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#71 Feb 02, 2009 1:31 PM

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Jackson117 wrote:
ratchet wrote:

Crash Has aged much better than spyro in my opinion, but I havn't played any of the new ones (CTTR on) but every one before that has been avarage or good, and atleast The crash games have stayed more true to the series, still comical and funny, even if the bew games' characters are too different and retarded than they originally were.
In my opinion, The more a game can stick to it's roots but be better at the same time, the more fans there will be.


You forgot one flaw They made tiny GAY

Ah yes, the COTT charafcters do kind of annoy me. All of them have been portrayed as completely different characters than thy were originally supposed to be, and Tiny is one of the worst.

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#72 Feb 02, 2009 2:47 PM

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??? i thought this was a spyro forum nt a crash forum lol


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#73 Feb 02, 2009 10:00 PM

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??? i thought this was a spyro forum nt a crash forum lol

It's mostly Spyro related but Crash sometimes pops into a topic here and there. It's sorta like a random cameo thing.

A Guy wrote:

I personally would like a mix of the gameplay of TLOS and the originals. While I don't really agree with using Spyro in TLOS instead of just creating a new character, I definitely do not agree with making Spyro an M-rated game.

I agree with you. I was thinking of a game with three different playable characters. Instead of switching between them in-game, you play as that character for the entire game & play through the story from their perspective. Since some will have abilities others won't have, level design is going to be alot more complex because it has to be acquainted for each character. So...it's simply like three campaigns in a FPS except they are happening at the same time and you will eventually run into one another. I would plan all that out in advance first to avoid confusion later.
You can tell I have a knack for ranting...I'll stop now.

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#74 Feb 02, 2009 10:00 PM

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It is lol....but one in awhile it's ok to go off topic for just one post big_smile....not gonna hurt anything...but they will get back on topic soon enough. Btw nice new Avatar...now you just need the banner. Anyways back on topic!


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#75 Feb 02, 2009 10:03 PM

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And their is nothing wrong with ranting Thrasher lol....especially when they are good ideas....and I do agree. Having three seperate stories. Kinda like that new version of Sonic....where each character had their own story....except maybe a little more involved with each other.


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