The Offical Anti-Cynder fan Club

~cornys~ · Sep 20, 2009 3:43 AM

oh... dang it.... I like Flame Wars smile lol

And I think I'll do something better than cheesy power and join both the Cynder Fanclub and Anti-Cynder Fan Club smile lol

no.... I'm kidding.... I'll join neither actually....

and to reply to the Age Affilliation post: Why is it that older children always Sterio-type?

And yeah..... Cynder is to a degree a Marry Sue.... but to be honest I haven't seen many characters that aren't recently.... lol... I'm not a relationship person.... I'm not even a people person..... lol...

Jackson117 · Sep 23, 2009 11:28 PM

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Lord_of_Sheeps · Oct 04, 2009 11:06 PM

I posted this on another forum, so I'm gonna post it on this one just to prove a point that Cynder-bot is a in your face mary sue.

Ok let's redefine what a mary sue is, everyone pull out your copy of Wikipedia and Encyclopedia Dramatica plz.

"A Mary Sue (sometimes just Sue), in literary criticism and particularly in fanfiction, is a fictional character with overly idealized and hackneyed mannerisms, lacking noteworthy flaws, and primarily functioning as wish-fulfillment fantasies for their authors or readers. Perhaps the single underlying feature of all characters described as "Mary Sues" is that they are too much intended to attract notice for the audience's taste, or that the author seems to favor the character too highly. The author may seem to push how exceptional and wonderful the "Mary Sue" character is on his or her audience, sometimes leading the audience to dislike or even resent the character fairly quickly; such a character could be described as an "author's pet"." ~Wikipedia on the "Mary-Sue" article.

Now let's list all 3 forms of Cynder and see what types she is best described as:

1. Adult Cynder- Ok, she's cool, evil (obviously), all powerful (even though a little purple midget could beat her), sexy (to others, I thought she looked like a man with a parrot face), scary..... not really though. So what mary sue is she?

An Evil Sue.

"An Evil!Sue is typically involved in some way with the existing villain of the fandom, whether it be as a relative, boyfriend/girlfriend, or any other relationship, but can sometimes exist by him/herself or replace the canon villain. This Sue type is characterized by the stereotypical villain behavior such as sadism, long bouts of insane cackling, and attempting to kill canon characters, usually punctuated by angst-ridden soliloquies. Another common element of the Evil!Sue is some sort of mysterious and/or abusive past, but this is often shared by the other categories of Sue. The only reason it's worth mentioning is that the sordid past is often pointed to in explaining and excusing/justifying the Evil!Sue's behavior, whereas with most other Sues a tragic past explains it all." ~Encyclopedia Dramatica on their article of the "Mary-sues".

And then Spyro comes and saves the day, she shrinks into TEN Cynder.

2. TEN Cynder- Ok, its been like, I don't I'm gonna guess here (but correct me if I'm wrong), a couple of weeks give or take, and she's now feeling guilty, she's emo, drippy, fat, and a bit bi-polar, so what category can we put her in?

Oh I know, the Angsty Sue.

"This subconcept of the larger "Mary Sue" concept comes in two common variations. The first is a character who is constantly depressed and has a tragic past, frequently involving murder, child abuse, *bleep*, or abandonment of some sort. She or he often feels guilt for something that happened in the past, even though it is usually not his or her fault, which gives him or her the ability to feel bad about something without having done anything wrong. Generally, if she or he doesn't commit romanticized suicide, then only the love or close friendship of one or more canon characters can convince her that she is not responsible for a tragic or horrific childhood or event that was obviously not of her making. Such backgrounds constitute an ill-advised attempt to gain sympathy from the reader." ~Wikipedia on "Mary-Sues" article.

And then they get frozen in crystal or some kinda amber glassed junk, timeskipping three (or was it five?) years later, we meet DoTD Cynder.

3. DoTD Cynder- So she and Spyro were imprisoned in Crystal, they break out of crystal looking older (something that grinds Scientist's gears to the core) and now she's preppy? Wait, she also has more than one ability (thanks to her eating lucky ch- I mean the POWAH OV DRAKNEZZZZ!!!! (even though Spyro should be the one with the most elements but we can blame the game developers for wanting to make Cynder-bot appear just as special (and for the 2nd player to have an equal number of elements as well)) and she's sassy, sarcastic (Should this even be considered a personality?) and is in love with Spyro, even though the game showed no CHARACTER DEVLOPMENT!

Cynder degraded herself down to being the Helpful Sue.

"This Sue is everybody's friend, and a natural savior of the day. She heals the hero's broken leg with her expert medical prowess (because at only seventeen she already has her MD), gently coaxes the token kid's cat out of a tree with her sweet singing voice, rescues innocent goats from cruel cashmere salesmen, and gives the canon gals a friendly shoulder to cry on - before, of course, eventually stealing away their boyfriends and pets with her bubbly personality and compassionate nature. But it's not her fault that everybody loves her! She's just written that way. Our pal Helpful!Sue is usually the antithesis of Angry! or Evil!Sue. Often times writers will throw in one of those too, just to give her a nemesis, who she will either a) come out looking better than, or b) change for the better with her contrived fairy godmother ways." ~Encyclopedia Dramatica "Mary-Sue" article.

And there you have it kids, you just helped name Cynders' Sue phases.

Good Job big_smile

Scarlett-Fear-Dragon · Oct 05, 2009 6:47 AM

...Wow. *pats King of Sheeps on the back*

Phoenix_Flyer · Oct 05, 2009 10:21 AM

Wow that was awesome! You got Cynder pretty much exactly right. I liked TEN Cynder more, but I've now gone off even her because of all the fantards.

A Guy · Oct 05, 2009 10:02 PM

Well, you have me convinced. I'm in, if only for all the annoying Cynder fans that murder the English language.

Jackson117 · Oct 07, 2009 5:38 AM

Lord_of_Sheeps wrote:

I posted this on another forum, so I'm gonna post it on this one just to prove a point that Cynder-bot is a in your face mary sue.
Ok let's redefine what a mary sue is, everyone pull out your copy of Wikipedia and Encyclopedia Dramatica plz.
"A Mary Sue (sometimes just Sue), in literary criticism and particularly in fanfiction, is a fictional character with overly idealized and hackneyed mannerisms, lacking noteworthy flaws, and primarily functioning as wish-fulfillment fantasies for their authors or readers. Perhaps the single underlying feature of all characters described as "Mary Sues" is that they are too much intended to attract notice for the audience's taste, or that the author seems to favor the character too highly. The author may seem to push how exceptional and wonderful the "Mary Sue" character is on his or her audience, sometimes leading the audience to dislike or even resent the character fairly quickly; such a character could be described as an "author's pet"." ~Wikipedia on the "Mary-Sue" article.
Now let's list all 3 forms of Cynder and see what types she is best described as:
1. Adult Cynder- Ok, she's cool, evil (obviously), all powerful (even though a little purple midget could beat her), sexy (to others, I thought she looked like a man with a parrot face), scary..... not really though. So what mary sue is she?
An Evil Sue.
"An Evil!Sue is typically involved in some way with the existing villain of the fandom, whether it be as a relative, boyfriend/girlfriend, or any other relationship, but can sometimes exist by him/herself or replace the canon villain. This Sue type is characterized by the stereotypical villain behavior such as sadism, long bouts of insane cackling, and attempting to kill canon characters, usually punctuated by angst-ridden soliloquies. Another common element of the Evil!Sue is some sort of mysterious and/or abusive past, but this is often shared by the other categories of Sue. The only reason it's worth mentioning is that the sordid past is often pointed to in explaining and excusing/justifying the Evil!Sue's behavior, whereas with most other Sues a tragic past explains it all." ~Encyclopedia Dramatica on their article of the "Mary-sues".
And then Spyro comes and saves the day, she shrinks into TEN Cynder.
2. TEN Cynder- Ok, its been like, I don't I'm gonna guess here (but correct me if I'm wrong), a couple of weeks give or take, and she's now feeling guilty, she's emo, drippy, fat, and a bit bi-polar, so what category can we put her in?
Oh I know, the Angsty Sue.
"This subconcept of the larger "Mary Sue" concept comes in two common variations. The first is a character who is constantly depressed and has a tragic past, frequently involving murder, child abuse, *bleep*, or abandonment of some sort. She or he often feels guilt for something that happened in the past, even though it is usually not his or her fault, which gives him or her the ability to feel bad about something without having done anything wrong. Generally, if she or he doesn't commit romanticized suicide, then only the love or close friendship of one or more canon characters can convince her that she is not responsible for a tragic or horrific childhood or event that was obviously not of her making. Such backgrounds constitute an ill-advised attempt to gain sympathy from the reader." ~Wikipedia on "Mary-Sues" article.
And then they get frozen in crystal or some kinda amber glassed junk, timeskipping three (or was it five?) years later, we meet DoTD Cynder.
3. DoTD Cynder- So she and Spyro were imprisoned in Crystal, they break out of crystal looking older (something that grinds Scientist's gears to the core) and now she's preppy? Wait, she also has more than one ability (thanks to her eating lucky ch- I mean the POWAH OV DRAKNEZZZZ!!!! (even though Spyro should be the one with the most elements but we can blame the game developers for wanting to make Cynder-bot appear just as special (and for the 2nd player to have an equal number of elements as well)) and she's sassy, sarcastic (Should this even be considered a personality?) and is in love with Spyro, even though the game showed no CHARACTER DEVLOPMENT!
Cynder degraded herself down to being the Helpful Sue.
"This Sue is everybody's friend, and a natural savior of the day. She heals the hero's broken leg with her expert medical prowess (because at only seventeen she already has her MD), gently coaxes the token kid's cat out of a tree with her sweet singing voice, rescues innocent goats from cruel cashmere salesmen, and gives the canon gals a friendly shoulder to cry on - before, of course, eventually stealing away their boyfriends and pets with her bubbly personality and compassionate nature. But it's not her fault that everybody loves her! She's just written that way. Our pal Helpful!Sue is usually the antithesis of Angry! or Evil!Sue. Often times writers will throw in one of those too, just to give her a nemesis, who she will either a) come out looking better than, or b) change for the better with her contrived fairy godmother ways." ~Encyclopedia Dramatica "Mary-Sue" article.
And there you have it kids, you just helped name Cynders' Sue phases.
Good Job [/quote
That didn't explain well how adult cynder is a sue..If anything she's quite a great villain..Heck i rate adult form 3rd in villains..No one can replace RED through

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