Spyro timeline

ratchet · Jan 28, 2008 10:33 AM

This forum is to discuss the spyro timeline, whats before what, whats after what, all that sorta stuff. HEres something i made

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Spyro · Jan 28, 2008 10:45 PM

Timeline for Canon A - The Old Games:

1) Spyro the Dragon

2) Spyro 2: Ripto's Rage - this follows the first game in that Spyro is taking his vacation deserved for defeating Gnasty Gnorc when he gets swept to Avalar.

3) Spyro: Year of the Dragon - After the incidents at Avalar the dragons are preparing for the Year of the Dragon.

4) Spyro: Enter the Dragonfly - The final part of the Year of the Dragon in which baby dragons get dragonflies.

5) Spyro: Season of Ice - Trying to take a vacation after defeating Ripto at the Dragonfly Festival, things go awry.

6) Spyro (The Fairy Dressing Game) - A ball is thrown in celebration of Spyro freeing all the fairies from their ice prisons.

7) Spyro: Season of Flame

8) Spyro: Attack of the Rhynocs

9) Spyro: Ripto's Quest - Continues from Attack of the Ryhnocs because Ripto breaks free from the machine that imprisoned him in AotR.

10) Spyro: A Hero's Tail

11) Spyro Orange: The Cortex Conspiracy - This has to follow a Hero's Tail because in this game Spyro knows Blink but he met him in AHT.

12) Spyro: Shadow Legacy - Taking a vacation for defeating Ripto, things go wrong.

13) Spyro the Dragon (cell phone version) - this seems like a midquel of sorts, as it could tie into what happens in Shadow Legacy. Essentially it is the cell phone port of Shadow Legacy but it has some changes to it that make it more than a port.

NOTE: There are also McDonald's LCD games and some online flash games. These don't really count but all would be midquels, as they fit in with other games and don't really make up for new games themselves.

Canon B - The New Games

1) The Legend of Spyro: A New Beginning - this could link to Canon A, because it shows the birth of Spyro and takes him on some adventures leading from that.

2) The Legend of Spyro: The Eternal Night - This is the immediate continuation of ANB, and pretty much shatters a hope of a connecting/bridging story to Canon A as Hunter makes an appearance, which contradicts Canon A.

NOTE: There are far fewer flash games and no promotional games (like the McDonald's ones) for the 'Legend of..." arc.

shade105 · Jan 28, 2008 10:51 PM

Plotwise, I think TLOS has no connection with the other games...

ratchet · Jan 28, 2008 11:19 PM

Nice timeline Spyro, My one has many different parallel universes. Not just 2. I'll try and update it when i get the chance

Timeline A: The Originals

1.Spyro The DRagon
2.Spyro 2: Ripto's Rage (somehow sparx loses his pointing gem ability)
3.Spyro 3: Year of the Dragon

Timeline B: Equinox

Note: Timeline A Except Gulp can talk, Spyro is wimpier and for some reason Hunter cant remember ripto.

1:Spyro: Enter THe Dragonfly
2.Spyro: Season of Ice
3.Fairy Game
4.Spyro 2: Seasons of flame
5.Spyro: Attack of the rynocs
6.Ripto Quest

Timeline C: Hero Timeline

Note: Timeline A except Gnasty's Dumber, looks different and has a strong grudge against spyro. dragon realms are different, Srgt byrd put on weight and uses jetpack instead of flippers, spyro is selfish and sarcastic, spyro sounds different, different dragons exist, sparx can talk, bentley is dumb, all gnorcs are pink, Professor built stuff in dragon realms, moneybags looks different and sounds different.

1.Spyro: A Hero's Tail
2.Spyro: Fusion

Timeline D: The Legend Timeline

1.The Legend of Spyro: A New Beginning
2.The Legend Of Spyro: The Eternal Night

Alone Games: These are games which do not co-incide with any timeline.
1.Spyro: Shadow Legacy (Can not fit because spyro does not know how to glide at the start, this can be resolved if at the end of a game spyro DOES lose this ability, however, no game states this. Apart from that, the dragon realms look very different.)
2.Spyro The Dragon (mobile) (Similar to Shadow legacy, also does not fit)

Spyro · Jan 28, 2008 11:27 PM

I can't get yours to open, ratchet, not sure what's wrong but maybe you could upload it somewhere else? Imageshack has always had issues with my computer for whatever reason.

shade105 · Jan 28, 2008 11:35 PM

Really, i cant open it either....

ratchet · Jan 28, 2008 11:41 PM

Ok, i'll host it somewhere else, i also wrote it in writing there too.
My timeline also needs a few updates (i made mistakes)

Rexy · Jan 29, 2008 2:38 PM

Timeline C: Hero Timeline
Note: Timeline A except Gnasty's Dumber, looks different and has a strong grudge against Spyro. dragon realms are different, Srgt byrd put on weight and uses jetpack instead of flippers, Spyro is selfish and sarcastic, Spyro sounds different, different dragons exist, sparx can talk, bentley is dumb, all gnorcs are pink, Professor built stuff in dragon realms, moneybags looks different and sounds different.

Gnasty Gnorc was still green tongue but still, you're right that a lot of stuff in the Hero timeline seemed to clash with what happened in prior games.

Alone Games: These are games which do not co-incide with any timeline.
1.Spyro: Shadow Legacy (Can not fit because Spyro does not know how to glide at the start, this can be resolved if at the end of a game Spyro DOES lose this ability, however, no game states this. Apart from that, the dragon realms look very different.)

Well to be fair, Spyro DID lose abilities transitioning from game to game sometimes. If we look at timelines B and C, it was more than obvious that Spyro would lose his ice and electricity breaths a few times (ETD to Season of Ice for one thing; the bubble breath could also apply here), not to mention the rare instance of physical techniques as well (Spyro couldn't glide at the beginning of Fusion either, as well as some other techniques that I must have overlooked; not to mention that he doesn't seem to use any other breath other than fire).

Spyro · Jan 29, 2008 8:35 PM

Timeline C: Hero Timeline
Note: Timeline A except Gnasty's Dumber, looks different and has a strong grudge against Spyro. dragon realms are different, Srgt byrd put on weight and uses jetpack instead of flippers, Spyro is selfish and sarcastic, Spyro sounds different, different dragons exist, sparx can talk, bentley is dumb, all gnorcs are pink, Professor built stuff in dragon realms, moneybags looks different and sounds different.

My explanation for A Hero's Tail - the dark gems! They sapped the life and good out of things, so I believe they changed a lot of things in the dragon realms. Gnasty's not that much dumber but the gems made him more stupid. I think we're just seeing a different portion of the Dragon realms. Dragon village fits into the Artisans realm, In my opinion. Look at Enter the Dragonfly - the one hub world in it had a gray castle, blue roof. It looked identical to the castle in StD in the Artisans realm. I choose to believe it is the same castle, so the EtD realm was an extension of the Artisan realm, and if you just hopped over the castle in EtD you'd be in the Artisan realm. Sgt. Byrd had a jetpack in YotD. He wasn't in EtD, so he was obviously taking a break. He probably put on some weight and so flipper flapping wouldn't work - he was forced to use his jetpack that he always had. Spyro was always sarcastic. I don't see a big difference with him. Having different dragons doesn't change anything. The dragons in StD were the elders, there is way more than just elders out there! As for why the elders were different...like Magnus...in a non-bad sounding way, the dark gems sapped the masculinity out of him and made him gayish. I think Sparx could have been taking 'voice lessons'...he's silent in StD, buzzes a bunch in YotD, and his buzzes are more distinct in EtD, so by AHT he can talk. He was training. Bentley being dumb was the dark gems. The gnorcs being pink was the dark gems. After Spyro meets the Professor in RR, I'm sure the professor could have just come to the Dragon Realms to aid in some technical things. I mean he had a secret lab in the forgotten realms, so he built yet another in the dragon realms...not that strange. Moneybag's change was the dark gems as well.

Alone Games: These are games which do not co-incide with any timeline.
1.Spyro: Shadow Legacy (Can not fit because Spyro does not know how to glide at the start, this can be resolved if at the end of a game Spyro DOES lose this ability, however, no game states this. Apart from that, the dragon realms look very different.)

I think Spyro loses his breath abilities between EtD and AHT because the statue that gave him the powers in AHT was somehow destroyed. Then he lost his powers again between AHT and SL because the dark gems sapped power from him. As for the realms looking different - they are not the full realm, but extensions of the realms we knew. Spyro didn't explore all of the areas of each realm so now you were seeing more of them.

This is how I'd explain these inconsistencies.

ratchet · Jan 30, 2008 2:22 AM

Rexy: Yeah, Gnasty was green, thats it. Yeah, your right, he did lose his abilities in a tonn of games, probably the statue which gave spyro powers in ETD got destroyed or something.
Spyro: I really dont think the dark gems do that much damage, the dragons changed so frikin much that it wasn't funny. (and in a very short time too). But yeah, there probably were dragons somewhere else.
your probably right about the new dragon realms. I dont think there are such things as "talking lessons". Your probably right bout the professor. I cant accept that the dark gems made so much difference.

Shadow legacy just seems too weird, like theres japanese symbols around everywhere and actual houses. Anyway, its like frikin "magic dragon" japan.

ratchet · Jan 31, 2008 6:55 AM

I dont want this topic to get dragged down the page, i want more people to discuss it.

Spyrowinged12345 · Feb 05, 2008 4:09 PM

Urghhh!!! Sorry i just do not get this! What'r we talking bout?

ratchet · Feb 06, 2008 5:14 AM

we are talking About what game is where in time. Example: Is ETD before or after SOI?

RaidonMakoto · Feb 08, 2008 3:59 AM

I just write off Spyro losing powers as gameplay mechanics and different characterizations as not enough attention being paid to continuity on the writers part.

Pretty much, this is what the timeline is looking like for me:

StD - RR - YOTD - SoI - StD (Mobile. Thanks Neal tongue ) - ETD - SoF - Other Ripto Phone Game - AOTR - Fusion - AHT - SL

ANB - TEN - LoS3

I've tried my best to give possible explanations for things on my Wiki (Just ask and I've thought of something tongue ). [/continuitynut]

ratchet · Feb 09, 2008 1:47 AM

I just write off Spyro losing powers as gameplay mechanics and different characterizations as not enough attention being paid to continuity on the writers part.- I agree. Except its annoying to think so.

RaidonMakoto · Feb 09, 2008 2:19 AM

ratchet wrote:

I just write off Spyro losing powers as gameplay mechanics and different characterizations as not enough attention being paid to continuity on the writers part.- I agree. Except its annoying to think so.

Eh, you know, everyone has their own personal continuity.

ratchet · Mar 02, 2008 8:06 AM

The a few games which lay unexplained are the whole Hero Era (SL, AHT, Orange), ETD was a bit unexplained too. As for the gameboys, the fireflies was a total stupid idea from the start, and the wind at the start of AOR was a bit confusing. As for the loss of powers after Spyro 2, i think that those powers may only be used under Avalar Magic, so if Spyro went back into Avalar he could use those powers, buut as soon as he exits he will loose the powers. Because the super portal is connected to dragon shores, it technically allows dragon shores to be a part of Avalar.

ratchet · Mar 21, 2008 11:59 AM

There is the new timeline

ice_missle · May 13, 2008 6:15 AM

Ok. I have a kinda cool theory. As we all know, at the end of TLOS TEN Hunter is seen standing at the entrance of the cave. As we know Hunter and Spyro have never met.

But in Spyro 2: Ripto's Rage we see that Spyro has just met Hunter.

So I was thinking what could have happened. Here's what could have happened.
At the end of TLOS DOD after Spyro, Cynder, Hunter, and Sparx defeat the Dark Master something happened where all of their minds got erased. Then a magical spell happened so that Spyro and Sparx were sent to a different dragon realm.That's how Spyro ends up in the new dragon realm tracking down Gnasty Gnorc. Also Sparx ends up losing his voice and his arms. (How bizarre!) Hunter was sent to Avalar where the Professor found him. And Cynder, well I don't really know what would happen to her.

So what do you guys think?

ratchet · May 13, 2008 6:24 AM

Everyone really has their own theory and yours is one of many. But... that could happen

ice_missle · May 13, 2008 6:30 AM

It's interesting to see what other people think.

MetalHead · May 13, 2008 6:33 AM

And Cynder, well I don't really know what would happen to her.

What if she turned into Elora? XD

ratchet · May 13, 2008 6:37 AM

heh, nice thinking but i dont think so. i'm pretty sure that Elora is Native to Avalar, born near Fracture hills

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